A friend
asked me this morning about the comparison of the cost and convenience of an rv
versus traveling and staying strictly in motels. She knows we have chosen rv life, but
wondered if it was the right choice for her.
She asked me for my input.
I told her
it was a long and complicated process to make the choice so I would do a blog
post to help her, and hopefully others make the decision as to what
was best for them because no two families are alike.
My husband
and I have camped all our lives so we automatically lean toward camping, but
there is a lot more to consider in making the big choice. I’ll break
it down by categories to hopefully make it simpler for her and you. Please remember these are my opinions based
on my own experiences.
UPFRONT COST- PURCHASE :
With
traveling via car or airplane and staying at motels you have really no expenses
in the beginning in the initial investment stage. All the cost on that comes later in ongoing
costs.
As far as an
rv there are all sorts of upfront costs depending on what type of rv you go
with and your transportation once you get your camp set-up.
Gary and I
have camped in just about every type of equipment and conditions
imaginable. From simply throwing a
blanket on the ground to staying in a friends motorhome for a long
weekend. So we have some experience in
this territory.
We have
personally owned a pop-up (tent trailer), a bumper pull and three different fifth
wheels.
For ease in
pulling the pop-up and the fifth wheels win hands down. Gary drove the motor home and my father’s cab
over pick-up truck camper and said he preferred driving our pick-up with the
fifth wheel over both those units.
Another
consideration with those two styles of rvs is ground transportation after you
set camp. Both the motor home and cab
over, unless you have a towed vehicle, require you to completely break camp to
go anywhere.
You can go, as woman said she does with her motorhome, rent a car at the location for
ground transport. She says that is
actually cheaper than towing a travel vehicle and maintaining it. But that is a subject for another time.
What type of
rv you purchase and what you want in it will definitely make a difference in
how much you pay for the unit naturally.
Just like purchasing a car or truck with or without luxury features.
You also
need to look at the cost of new vs used.
When looking at a travel trailer or motorhome the argument on this is
pretty much the same as when trying to decide on new vs used on any vehicle or
appliance. All the same arguments apply.
There is one
thing to consider with used rvs that I have never had to consider when
purchasing a car. I have never been to a
parking lot that has said you can’t park your car here because it is too
old. I have been to campgrounds that
have age limits on rvs.
Generally it is
if the rv is older than 10 years old they aren’t allowed. Although at these same campgrounds I have
never been asked for proof of age of my rv. It is just something you need to be
aware of if you are looking at older rvs.
So you
decide the type of rv you want, what luxuries you want (washer, dryer,
automatic levelers, slide toppers, awnings, etc), ground transportation and if
it is a towed vehicle the costs of the equipment to tow it and then you start
considering other things. On the upfront costs of the rv vs motels route.
You also
need to seriously look at your tow vehicle for trailers of all sorts. Do your research, know your vehicles TRUE pulling and STOPPING power. Don’t take
the word of the salesman at either the car/truck or rv dealership. Remember they make their living by selling
you the most expensive unit they can, whether your vehicle can really handle
that big rig or not. Do your research away from the sellers.
Time after
time we have seen and talked to people who have been told their half ton pickup
will pull a huge fifth wheel with no trouble and they have ended up with all
sorts of vehicle trouble, or worse, wrecks because of it.
You need to
take into consideration not only the weight of the empty trailer, but the
weight of everything you put in it. Be
aware a simple gallon of water weights 8.4 pounds so if you fill a 30 gallon
tank you are adding over 250 pounds to that trailer not only to pull, but to
STOP in traffic, going downhill in the rain….
Do your
homework on this for certain before putting a large rig on a truck. Our fifth wheel is a 37 ft. Montana with an aluminum frame. We pull it with a one ton diesel dually Chevy
Silverado and there was recently an event that our trailer brake assist failed
and we came within inches of rear ending a vehicle in what would have normally
been a very reasonable stopping distance.
Trailers PUSH hard when going downhill and they pull hard going uphill. Trust me we stopped and fixed that problem immediately.
If your
vehicle won’t handle it and doesn’t have a tow package on it I highly recommend
a different vehicle or a smaller trailer.
By the way, we personally prefer a dually for a tow vehicle because it,
to us, gives more stabilization by having those extra wheels on the ground.
UP FRONT COST- INSURANCE:
Just like
your car you have to have insurance on your rv. This can be as simple or as
complicated as you deem necessary. We
have our fifth wheel insured in conjunction with our pick-up and therefore it
is a lower rate and has the same coverage as the truck does.
However, you
need to be aware that if you are doing full time rving some companies will not
cover your rv in this manner. Make sure you are carrying the proper insurance.
In our home
state of Oklahoma, because we still own our sticks and bricks home our
homeowners insurance covers the contents of our rv for theft, fire, storm etc,
just like our house is covered.
Individual
states and companies will vary, so be sure and check the costs of this and add that
into your equation.
We also have AAA rv insurance coverage. Do not be tempted to think just because you have AAA your trailer and tow vehicle are both covered, because at least with the Oklahoma policies your card MUST say you have rv coverage on the front of it to even get a flat changed on your tow vehicle if your trailer is hooked up to it.
UPFRONT COSTS-TAGS AND TAXES:
RV’s have to
be tagged separately and if your state requires excise tax or other transfer of
ownership taxes that needs to be added into your equation as well. When we purchased our current fifth wheel I
was able to find an pretty good estimate online as to what those costs would be
before I ever purchased the fiver.
UPFRONT COSTS, ACCESSORIES:
Yes,
accessories, now there are a few for a motel stay that if you don’t already have
you might need to consider.
Luggage something
to consider. Yes, you can motel stay using Wal-Mart sacks, but is that is
asking for loss of important items to happen and if you are flying they won’t
let you check those. Spring for good
quality luggage if you are going to travel a lot, especially if that travel
includes flying.
You can
often find good luggage at thrift stores for far cheaper than retail. Check zippers and clasps thoroughly if you
are doing this.
You might
also want to consider an ice chest for picnics and snacks on the road. If you go with an ice chest you have two
options to consider. Electric or normal
ice chests.
Our experience with the
electric was it didn’t keep things as cool as we liked (generally only about
5-10 degrees below the current ambient temperature in your vehicle (including when your car is
locked in the sun meaning it will drain your car battery and only cool it to
around 100 or more degrees in a locked car in August and it will, on occasion,
blow the fuses of your vehicle.
If you do
the regular type, then you have the cost of ice for it. There are of course all sorts of ways to cut
that cost both in motel camping and rving.
Another post for certain.
Believe it
or not you MAY in some instances want an overnight bag each in a camper as
well. On more than one trip in the past
we have traveled to a location, to park our rv in the motel’s major
parking/storage lot and stay in the motel.
Generally this was done for business travel, and we could have done it
with Wal-Mart bags, but we choose to take overnight bags. We own some nice collapsible ones that take
almost no space to store in the camper for such use. We have also used those bags for taking laundry
to the laundromat. There may also be occasions that you will have to stay in a
motel or a friend’s house while rv repairs are being done.
The rv has
its own set of accessories. Some are
necessary, some are simply nice to have.
Necessary:
pots, pans, plates bowls and other meal preparation items. You can either outfit your camper with items
for your camper kitchen from your sticks and bricks home, from thrift stores,
or all brand new. How you do it will
affect your upfront total as well.
Then of
course there are your linens, be aware some rvs have “short” beds. This is generally due to how slides must come
in on the unit. A regular mattress will
not work on these beds, but regular sheets will. The beds are the same width as standard
mattresses, but are shorter by x amount of inches.
Our bed is a
queen short. I use regular queen sheets
on it and just tuck the extra length under the mattress.
If one of
your family members is taller in stature and you fall in love with a short bed
camper you can, once you are set-up pull the mattress down at the foot of the
bed slightly and add a few inches to the length because you don’t generally
sleep with your head right smack up against the wall. It does get to be a bit of a hassle doing
this every time you set up or tear down and does narrow your walkway at the
foot of the bed, but if that is the only deciding factor on the purchase then
don’t let it stop you. Me, I don’t have that problem, I am only 5’1”.
Set-up
accessories: leveler blocks/boards, chocks, sewer hose, sewer connector, sewer
hose support (can simply be a sloped board), drinking water hose (one actually
made to use for drinking water), separate water hose to use for sewer clean
out, water regulator and I am certain there are more I am forgetting.
Pets: if
your pet is traveling with you campgrounds require that you keep them on a 6
ft. leash, in a crate, tied out on a 6 ft leash, or in pet fencing at all times
when outdoors. If you do not already
have these that cost will need to be added.
Of course for strictly auto travel you will need a leash anyway and
possibly a crate.
Unnecessary,
but nice to have for various reasons: wheel covers (these extend the life of
your tires), ground cloth/rug to put in front of your steps to help prevent
tracking ground debris into the camper, outdoor table cloths, table cloth
clips, lawn chairs, lawn tables, a sunshade or screen porch/canopy, tiki
torches, awning lights the list goes on and on.
ONGOING EXPENSES:
Rv
maintenance, tires, greasing the wheel bearings, and other things quite similar
to that of an auto, only they often cost a little more to pay to have or you can do them yourself.
Then of
course there is the extra tag to purchase every year and in some states an rv
is tagged as a luxury item and therefore costs more.
Fuel, the
more you drag/carry the lower your fuel will drop. Usually by ¼ to ½ if you are pulling a big
rig.
LEVELING IT ALL OUT:
So after
reading all the upfront and maintenance costs you might wonder why in the world
anyone would think rving would be better. Let’s look at that.
Nightly
rates: Unless you want to stay in the roach and bedbug motel you are looking at
a minimum of roughly $70 per night. Even
with loyalty cards that can be a major chunk of money. 5 nights at such a motel is $350 plus taxes
and you have to eat at least 2 of your meals out daily (many hotels have a free
breakfast of sorts).
Many
campgrounds have weekly and monthly rates and many that same $350 will buy you
a month’s stay that includes water, electric, sewer and sometimes wi-fi (albeit
slow) and limited cable tv.
We camp at
many places for $9 to $10 a night, and many times free. The highest we have ever paid was $69 per
night, that was at Walt Disney World’s Ft. Wilderness and includes all
sorts of free entertainment, transportation and atmosphere you won’t get
staying elsewhere. Their value resorts
average $100 to $150 a night on season, so even there you save around half by
camping.
With just
this factor you can quickly see that if you camp much at all you will save a lot
of money and that doesn’t include the free movies, ice cream and other goodies
that camping fee often includes.
Then there
is the matter of hygiene. I personally
like KNOWING who slept in my bed last and when the sheets were last
changed. That there are no bed bugs in
the bed and furniture.
No grungy
fungi hiding in my shower and when the toilet was last scrubbed, but that is
just me.
I also like
knowing my dishes, pots and pans are truly clean. So health consequences and
peace of mind you will have to put the value on yourself.
If you want
to take your pet with you most campgrounds now not only allow you to bring your
animals, as long as you obey the rules, but have dog run areas as well without
an extra fee for Phydeaux. Hotels often
have pet friendly rooms, but also charge extra per pet.
As they sang
in the musical Oliver, “Food, glorious food!” If you can cook it at home you
can cook it in a camper. You can even
get full size residential appliances if you want to pay the price and haul that
extra weight around. We find the small
appliances that come with the camper work just fine for us.
I do however
carry a crockpot, a toaster oven and a Griddler with me for convenience in
cooking. We like to explore every new
area we visit and it is so handy to throw dinner in the crockpot before we
leave and come back for dinner.
We do try
new places as we go. In fact we have
been on the lookout for the places featured on Diners, Drive-ins and Dives to
try the ones that looked yummy to us on the show. But for the most part a quick fixed meal at
the camper is tasty and far cheaper than a constant diet of fast food and
questionable restaurants.
Discounts,
just like hotels campgrounds often have discounts for area attractions so they
break pretty even right there.
Ambience at
a campground is extremely different. If
you enjoy bird watching, deer, the smell of a campfire, sometimes hearing a
campfire singalong these are things you will miss motel staying.
If you prefer
nightclubs, shows, movies and that sort of thing you can still go to them from
the campground, it is just a little more of a commute.
Let’s talk
storage. You are soooooo limited on what
you can take with you when traveling via motels. Just what will fit in your car/truck. You have many times that amount of space in
your rv, but you need to remember extra weight puts extra strain on your tow
vehicle and will affect your fuel mileage.
But it is nice to have spare underwear when you need it.
Speaking of
fuel economy. Plan on your fuel usage to
go up when rving. Our diesel dually fuel
usage when pulling the fifth wheel is about 6 mpg less than without it.
Fueling up
also has its own set of concerns. Not
all fuel stations are rv friendly. I
cannot tell you how many rvs I have seen with the tell tale crease from the
ballards (those yellow pillars at the gas pumps) because the driver over
estimated his safe distance.
You also
need to plan your exit route as well.
Big rigs don’t jump fast out into traffic. Traffic lights are your friend!
Unfortunately
the trend in many fuel stations now is to have all sorts of curbs surrounding
the station to help slow down the number of drive-offs they have. This trend also makes it close to impossible
to purchase fuel at these stations when traveling with an rv. There are several ways around this problem, but you need to know it exists.
All in all
if you are planning on a lot of traveling then I highly recommend an rv, if you
are only going out for 2 weeks a year, well... we did it, but then we love
camping.
I hope this
helps all of you make the decision.
Jan who is
really enjoying rv life in and away from OK
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